Truth Details

I really do appreciate your position on the border. You and I are in agreement.
It's interesting, because everybody's now trying to analyze
whether
if there's a three-way race with you, Donald Trump,
and Joe Biden,
who would you more likely draw from? So I hope you don't mind, but I did a little research on you.
You're pretty liberal. You know, you've called for curbing, logging, oil drilling,
fracking. You wanted to eliminate it. You called it a victory for democracy.
You want to curb US fossil fuel extraction.
Keep it in the ground you once tweeted. You want to ban on fossil fuel extraction,
ban on fracking.
You called the NRA once a terror group. You supported over the years Democrats Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary. You praised Bernie Sanders multiple
times. You support affirmative action. So
why is this party of yours? Why didn't they even want to allow you to compete?
Because that's as pretty liberal of a record as anybody I know.
You have a litany of talking points from
statements
I've made over 40 years.
Some of them are stale.
Some of them I never said.
But what is your question?
Why the Democratic Party? Why I'm not running at the Democratic Party?
Why did they kick you out?
By the way, I'm giving you comments that you've made in 2016,
17, 19
endorsements. We know the years Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders. They're all recent quotes. The NRA quote you made about calling them a terror group was 2018.
So
these are
recent positions you've had.
I'm not sure why the Democratic Party wouldn't allow you to compete.
Do you want to
talk about my position Sean? Yes sir. Yeah yeah yeah. Do you want to read talking points from
the Trump campaign?
Excuse me, these are not talking points. These are called Hannity points. I do my own research.
No, but I saw that same list published this morning by the Trump campaign. It was the exact same list.
And again, if you want to know what my position is on any issue, I'm happy to talk to you about it.
On those positions,
you come off, and I'm not, This is not an insulting thing.
You are
historically
very left of center, very liberal,
and I agree with you. Your party treated you horribly.
I think you deserve better.
I don't like the way your own family even treated you. I thought, you know, if they don't agree with you, they can disagree,
but I didn't like what they said about you. To be honest, I think you're being honest in your positions, but I don't think you can convince any conservative that you have any conservative leanings except for a couple of issues. Maybe some conservatives would agree on the border. Maybe some would agree on your vaccine policy,
especially with COVID.
Where else would you say you're conservative?
Well, I wouldn't
describe myself at this point as
part of the conservative
ideology
or the democratic ideology. I would describe myself as part of that common
sense ideology. If you ask me, Sean, about any particular
issue,
I'm happy to tell you what I feel about it and I also am happy to listen to other people's opinions about it. All right. I'll ask you Do
you still believe the NRA is a terror group?
I support the second amendment like I do all the amendments the Constitution and I'm not asking you if you support the second amendment you called in 2018
you said Parkland students are right the NRA is a terror group do you believe that
I don't consider the NRA a terror group.
Do you regret tweeting that in 2018?
Well, I don't recall tweeting it in 2018, but if I did,
As I said, Sean, I don't consider them a terror group and I support the Second Amendment.
Do you regret endorsing
Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders over the years?
I don't recall endorsing Bernie Sanders. I like Bernie Sanders. I
voted for Barack Obama.
I don't regret that.
I don't. There's a lot of things about
about those candidates the candidates who won that I was disappointed in
I think that you know we need to wind down the war machine abroad
and
I don't think and I supported Hillary and III
don't think that
as Secretary of State
that she
she lived up to those expectations
so
but I'm not going to say that I didn't I you know I supported the men I supported what they believe in I I think I may I have a common sense approach to politics.
And I'm happy as I said to talk to you about any of the issues.
Listen I'd love to do another town hall with you. I actually enjoyed our time together.
Do you stand by your position that you've held at least since
2012 and through 2019
that I have quotes for,
banning fracking and banning oil and fossil fuel extraction?
I've
never believed in banning oil or banning fossil fuel extraction. What I've said is that
those industries
need to internalize their cause. In other words, it's that carbon is the most heavily subsidized
energy source.
There's $5.2
trillion
of subsidies that go to big carbon every year, and that doesn't include
even the oil wars. That in a real free market economy the cost of those wars
would be reflected in the price of gasoline when you got to the tank.
The reason that I oppose fracking is because it is
poisoning water supplies. I've watched the water supply in Dimock, Pennsylvania,
where people turned on their faucets, Sean, and they could light a match there.
We don't want to poison people. And if fracking's doing that, then,
you know, They need to re-improve those people for the cause of it.
And
we don't have any real alternatives that are efficient and cost effective as of now. We'd love to have you back. That absolutely is not true. That just is not true. Of course it's true. That's not true, and I'm happy to talk to you about it. If you give me a chance to talk to you about it. All right, well, I'll tell you what, we'll bring you back, and we'll, I'd love to, maybe we'll do another hour together if you're up for it. I'd be up for doing that. That'd be great.