And it's happening
for political reasons. It's happening because the Democratic Party
has ceased making the case for itself to Americans.
And so in order to keep power, in fact, to expand their power and to preside over the 1 party state that they desire, they're going to need a brand new electorate.
And this is their electorate.
Foreigners
will choose
your leaders.
You're not allowed to choose the leaders of foreign countries, but foreigners will choose your leaders, including
in this election,
this 2024 presidential election. Well, how would that work? It's illegal, you say,
for illegal aliens to vote in a federal election. Well, actually it's not
illegal, it turns out. Congress passed something in The US code, the federal code, a line that unbeknownst to the rest of us makes it legal for illegal aliens to vote in federal elections if they believe they are citizens.
It's a state of mind. Did you know that? We didn't know that. Most people didn't know that. Catherine Engelbrecht
just found this provision in the US code.
That's the kind of thing she reads because she's the founder of True the Vote and has been working on these issues for a few years now. And she joins us to explain what she's found. Catherine Engelbrecht, Thank you so much for coming on. Oh, thanks for having me.
So would you mind explaining what seems at first blush, a very far-fetched
idea
that
the US code as of right now, as of our speaking, would allow
illegal aliens to vote in the upcoming presidential election. How would that work?
Yeah, well,
True the Vote, the organization I founded some years ago, has been long involved in looking at the accuracy of the voter rolls, and we've long maintained that inaccurate voter rolls lead to inaccurate elections.
So with that as a backdrop,
we've been very concerned about the lack of availability
to determine citizenship status, not just by groups like ours, but by states themselves.
They can't get close enough to a citizenship status database
to make good determinations.
That then led me to look a little deeper because as you rightly lay out, there's a motivation
here. So what might that be? We've seen many, many videos of people coming across the border who are
talking about their excitement about voting for Joe Biden and claiming that they are citizens.
But yet, we hear debates in Congress where the congressmen will say, you can't, don't worry, non-citizens can't vote.
It's a crime of perjury, it's a felony. So okay,
we took a deep look at the criminal code and
Title 18 left us just gobsmacked
because when you read all the way through it, as it lists all of the
stipulations
against
non-citizen voting in federal elections,
and lays out the penalties therefore,
scroll all the way down to the fine print, And what you read is that non-citizens
can vote without penalty
if at the time they are voting, they believe themselves to be U.S. Citizens.
Well, I mean, that seems insane. I mean, I'm taking your word for it. I'm not a lawyer or an expert in the federal code,
but is there any other crime?
Like if I can show that I didn't know I was robbing a liquor store, I had a gun in my hand, I was demanding money, but I didn't really think it was robbery. Does that shield me from being prosecuted for robbing a liquor store?
No, certainly not. But I will say that the state of mind idea is something that
we've come up against in the past related to domicile,
as we've done reviews of the voter rolls and you see people that are registered, but they're registered to vacant lots, they're registered to fast food restaurants,
and
the press you get back from the state as well, but, you know, residency is a state of mind. This takes that to an entirely different level. And I'll tell you what I'm really concerned about, Tucker,
is that when we lived through 2020
and we saw
the landscape
change, lawlessness take hold,
we just, we watched on the sidelines and said,
surely this can't be
what it looks like is happening. Surely this move to the mass mail of ballots and unmonitored drop boxes
and third party election workers that have no proper training to support all of the ebbs and flows of process, Surely this can't be what's about to play out and then when it did
you're left with scant few days to try to pick up the pieces and prove what really happened.
I'm seeing this now play out
in 2024
on this issue much the same And so it's my hope that we can awaken
Americans
to this problem and demand accountability
before November
so that we can decide
if Citizenship is truly a state of mind.
Can I ask about the law itself, the code that you're referring to? Do you think that that suggests
that
the foreigner,
because the proposition here is that we're allowing foreigners to choose our leaders, which is insane, of course.
But is the law written in such a way
that that foreigner will not be punished for voting in our elections, but will that vote still count? Is that clear?
Well, it's a great question, but
the ballots are anonymous. So once that ballot has been cast, either by mail and it's been separated from the envelope with which it's carried to the central count, so you can't tell who voted if that's been separated, the envelope from the ballot, and certainly by machine. You can't tell. So no,
there's no way to pull this back. It's why it is critical
that we get on the front side of this and have a
very national discussion
about
the tracks we're heading down. This is a very, very dangerous.
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