And tonight chaos is brewing in the Democratic Party as calls for Joe Biden to drop out are growing.
Joining us now for an exclusive interview on the phone, former President Donald Trump. Mr. President, great to have you, sir. How are you?
Well, thank you very much, John. I'm fine. Thank you.
Let's go back to the debate with you and President Biden
because immediately you could notice his voice was raspy. But beyond that,
within minutes, I could tell this was not going to be a good night for Joe Biden.
What was going through your head at that time?
Well, it was a big evening and you could feel a lot of energy, boy energy like you haven't felt in a long time
on any of the debates. I've done a lot of debates and we've had great success with debates, but this was something very special for whatever reason. It just seemed big.
And when I got to Atlanta and this was at CNN headquarters,
There was a lot of excitement.
There were trucks. I call them the $10 million trucks. That's with the antennas all over.
Very incredible equipment. I'm looking at things that are,
you know, it's just more of a scene than it normally would be.
And It really was that way right from the start, right from the moment they introduced us. And then they introduced him
and introduced me, and I walked out on us and he looked
extremely pale to put it nicely.
And
I don't know, maybe it was a good makeup job or maybe it wasn't, but he was a very pale looking man.
And when he started to speak, I don't know, I thought his voice was
weak. I didn't know exactly what was happening. It was strange. I do have to say that the CNN
Jake and Dana
were really,
they were pretty good. They were, they really, they were, I thought they were fair. I thought they were fair in the questions I thought to him, to me.
But it was a strange evening, I will tell you. It was a strange debate because
within
a couple of minutes the answers given by him were they didn't
they they didn't make a lot of sense.
Well let me ask you this.
I think some of the worst moments for President Biden were
when he wasn't talking there was like this
blank,
vacant
stare and
it's like he was checked out and I've run a montage of it.
When you were speaking and you'd look over, Did you notice that too or?
You know, I was thinking about what I was saying I wasn't looking over at him almost at all except when he went a little bit haywire I didn't look at him at all
and I'm very disappointed in him. He's the worst president in the history of our country. We've never had anything like it. What he's done to our borders, what he's done to
our country, inflation,
the people that he's hurting, he's destroying Social Security, destroying Social Security.
And people are, you know, I'm just so upset with him as president.
And so I wasn't really looking over. I purposely wasn't.
And I did take a couple of peeks when he was in the midst of giving some
really bad answers.
They weren't even answers. They were just words put together that no meaning or sense.
But for the most part, I didn't really look over
since since before the 2020 election on radio and TV. I have chronicled
the fact that Joe looked weak and frail and that he was a cognitive mess long before the election in 2020.
The media,
I call them state-run media, Democrats,
they're all acting shocked like this just came out of nowhere. Is this 1 incident
or is it, you know,
is this something permanent? I'm like, did they not notice the guy can't give a press conference? Did they not notice that he doesn't use the big boy stares getting on Air Force 1? Did they not notice the plan to surround him as he walks to and from Marine 1,
that he wouldn't do a Super Bowl interview,
a layup interview for any president, really.
What part of his cognitive decline do you think they missed, or did they purposely cover for him, in your view?
Well, they cover for him and they still are sort of covering, but now it's getting very difficult to do that. And you know, it looks to me like he may very well stay in. He's got an ego and he doesn't want to quit. He doesn't want to do that. It just looks to me like that's what he wants. I think Jill would like to see him stay. She's having a good time.
I notice she really seems to be having a good time. And I'm hearing that Hunter is calling the shots.
So this isn't necessarily a very positive thing for our country.
But I think he, you know, might very well stay in, and if he does,
nobody wants to give that up that way.
He's going to feel badly about himself for a long time. It's hard to give it up that way, the way where they're trying to force him out. So, I mean, you really have to speak to his doctors, but obviously he's been
sheltered by the fake news media. That's why they call it the fake news.
Do you, Mr. President, do you want Joe Biden
to step aside? Do you care?
Well, we prepared for him, but I don't think it's going to matter. We have we had a great 4 years. Our border was the strongest ever.
Our economy pre covid was
incredible, the best ever.
But then when we got hit with the gift from China, the China virus, that came in and we did a fantastic job. We got it back where the stock market was actually higher
to just prior to COVID coming
in. So we've done a job. The military, we defeated ISIS, took out the worst terrorists in the world and defeated ISIS. That was a big thing, I was told, it would take 5 years, and it took us a couple of months. The military is fantastic. By the way, the military is not woke. The people at top are woke. But the military is never going to be woke. Those are incredible people, what they did for me in the fight on ISIS. And then we had no wars. I mean, I had no wars. We're heading into World War III, in my opinion, with this man
semi-running things, because he's not running things. The people that surround the
Oval Office, the people that surround
the Resolute Desk, the beautiful Resolute Desk, they're really running
things in Washington, I suspect, and it's very bad. And, You know, he got them into the
warfare and lawfare,
many different terms you can use, but basically going after your political opponent, using the Justice Department, using local DAs, using local attorney generals, going after your political opponent. Nobody's ever seen anything like that. And, you know, there are those. I just read an article that it was a — it's been a positive for me, but it's not a positive. It's very unfair. It's fighting an unfair battle.
But
he's the 1 that got us into that. And all these lawsuits you see and everything else. That's all Biden inspired, meaning Biden people
inspired.
And it's a very sad, I think it's a very sad time for our country. We're not respected anywhere in the world. He's not respected.
And our country is in very serious trouble. And I'll tell you what, if we're not careful, we're going to be right in the middle of World War III, and that will be a war like nobody's seen before because of the weaponry. The weaponry is a whole lot different than 2 army tanks going up against each other. This is a whole different world
and we don't have somebody
that can properly represent us. There's no question about that. What do you make of all the talk that if Biden steps aside or is pushed out that it would be Vice President Harris.
Do you expect that much would change?
Well, I think that it will be her. I think they are
very concerned about the vote if it's not her. They are very, very,
I mean, they're gun shy. They don't want to do it any other way. I've, I've actually
come to believe that's what they're going to do. I think she's an ineffective person.
She was in charge of the border. She's never been there. She didn't do a good job and she hasn't done a job on a lot of things. But it would seem to me that from a political standpoint,
that's who they're going with. They're not even talking about alternatives.
And it seems that
if he gets out, for whatever reason—and I don't think he wants to get out,
But if he gets out,
it will be her. Interestingly,
he's got a lot of power because he's got the delegates. You know, when you have the delegates,
unless he says, I'm getting out, they can't do anything
to get him out, other than the 25th Amendment, if they want to do it in a different route, it would be the 25th Amendment. But let's assume
with not very much time left. You know, there's not much time left, and then we can straighten out our country.
We'll make America great again, right? But there's not a lot of time left. But I think unless they use the 25th Amendment, which they'd use in a different sense, he has all the power. He has the delegates. He doesn't have to get out. There's nothing they can do to get him out. So he'll get the nomination, he got the nomination, and then
they'll have their meeting in Chicago, which by the way, last week,
117
people were shot and 17 people were killed. That was last weekend in Chicago.
And that's like, that's like a war zone,
But they have their convention in Chicago.
And they're obviously very proud of Chicago. And I love Chicago.
I have investments in Chicago. But when you look at the crime in Chicago, when you look at what's gone wrong with Chicago,
It's not a very good thing to be displaying
right now.
I still think
every election is about the future. It's about peace and prosperity.
In this case, it would be about the border. It will be about the economy, law and order, the green agenda, America's role in the world.
The 1 issue that pops almost at the top of every poll in the minds of Americans, well, really 2,
the border and the economy. Let's start with the border. We have nearly 11 million unvetted Joe Biden illegal immigrants in this country from nearly 180 countries,
but many from countries that have terror ties, countries like Iran and Syria, Egypt, Afghanistan,
Venezuela,
Kazakhstan,
nearly 60, 000 from China in just the last 18 months, tens of thousands from Russia.
And
I worry that this is now a clear and present danger for the country
and that The likelihood that terror cells are probably already here is very high. I don't think I'm wrong. I pray to God that I'm wrong. I don't believe I am.
And the media, Democrats,
you know, have ignored the issue and they've allowed it to happen. And Biden and Kamala Harris and Mayorkas
have all said the borders closed and the borders secure, but they brag about ending the policies that you had in place
when they got into power.
I think a preventable
problem.
I'm worried about our national security like never before.
Well the 1 thing you haven't said tonight that you always say is that it's 100 percent
certain that we're going to have a terror attack and I agree with you on that. It's 100 percent certain. I mean we're letting terrorists into our- I always say, I pray I'm wrong.
I pray to God I'm wrong. We're letting terrorists into our country
at a level that we've never seen before.
Terrorists are coming in, and they're coming in, Sean, from mental institutions
and insane asylums. They're coming in from prisons and jails from all over the world, all over the world, not just South America. They're coming in from the Congo and Africa. They're coming in from
every
part of the world. And some of these parts are rough parts of the world. And they're pouring into our country as prisoners,
as mental patients. They're coming into our country, and they're coming in also as terrorists.
And this is poisoning our country. And nobody should have been subjected to this. They should never have been allowed to do this. There's nothing good that can come of it. And we're going to have to get these criminals, and a lot of them are criminals, and very high-level,
very bad criminals.
We're going to get them out. We're going to have the largest deportation
in our history, larger than the Eisenhower deportation.
And we have no choice. I don't want to do that. But this man has destroyed our country. And I say in rallies, I'm doing a big 1 tomorrow at DeRal in Miami, I say at rallies that you could take the 10 worst presidents in the history of our country and put them together, they will not have done the destruction and damage
as this man has done. He's been a horrible president, the worst president,
frankly the worst president in history by far. And by the way, Jimmy Carter is the happiest guy around because Jimmy Carter now is saying, you know, I mean, he was like a genius compared to what Biden is. His administration was brilliant compared to the Biden administration.
So it's a very, very sad, It's a very sad time in our country.
Let me ask a question.